GUI Design ok?

[-Sun-]

As you can see in my first post, i had to work on the GUI from my application.

Below is the work from the last days. Because i am very new with Krypton Suite, please give me a feedback abought your thoughts.

[Phil Wright]

Definitely a big improvement on the initial version you posted about before.

[Waescher]

Looks very good, Sun. A nice clean GUI with a well implemented Ribbon. The AppMenu could use some more buttons
Be careful with your icons: By now they look neat but prevent to mix different icon-sets, okay?

[-Sun-]

Thanks for the feedback. It shows me that this is the right way

Because this is a very early version of the GUI, the AppMenu and many other things has to be filled with functions.
The icon-set is my biggest problem. I found a lot which i can take for non commercial use, but non of them has all the icons i need. So i must mix a few of them

But the important thing for me is that i am on a good way to improve my programm and make the GUI cleaner and easier.

[quelhas]

Looks very good.

But if you use a Microsoft Office 2007 User Interface, you must license your application.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/office/aa973809.aspx

Quelhas

[vesuvius]

You need to use a checked list box control to control your navigation, instead of a datagridview on the left. Yes you lose the flexible databinding, and have to write the code manually, but that will look great.

Also please follow my instructions on this post to make your datagrid look continuous, and get rid of the ugly default lines. http://www.componentfactory.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1816

Also please remove the Outlook 2003 standard control colour name surrounding the text (Das Redesign geght voran),. Instead use a Krypton Panel and try and find a colour that matches Outlook.

Personally I am an Office 2007 purist and think the best Krypton Toolkit icons are http://www.glyfz.com/glyfz2007.htm or http://www.actiprosoftware.com/Products/Media/Icons/Default.aspx, and Component Factory as well, but for my present application, I need far more icons, but your application looks as if it could use them (CF that is). I just don't think that the Vista Type icons suit the Office 2007 Blue/Silver/Black themes, but they would suit the Sparkle themes.

[-Sun-]

Thanks for the tip with th UI license.

As i understand the license right, the license is free and describes how the UI works and should look like.
The most of the license is done from Phil in implementing the funktionality in the ribbon.
I have to take care that i comply with the guidlines like what elements are MUST be in a ribbon.

Have i understand this right?
If so i can license the UI for my product and have to register "GWClever" as my program?

Greetings
Gerhard

[-Sun-]

Hi vesuius,

thanks for the good tips. I changed something and it looks much smoother now.
Only the icons i can't use, because they are to expensive for me. I am a private person and this is a freeware i write to learn C# and so the KryptonSuite was enough to pay for.

Gerhard

[vesuvius]

I agree about the cost, it is very expensive, but there seems to be nothing at all that is affordable. As I said you may like to take a loot at CoomponentFactory icons, beause tey are very good as well, and matc the Office theme.

Even though this is freeware, try and get it looking as good as you can. Client programming is very hard, and you can always show an Employee or Client the work you have done before.

I still think there are loads of areas you can improve in the UI, but we'll wait and see your application in a month or so once you get to really know how the toolkit works.

Good luck and see you later.

[-Sun-]

This is the result of the tips i get. It looks much better but i have one problem.

As you can see i changed the row height to 18 as suggested from vesuvius, but the "g" is cut in the bottom. In the screen from vesuvius not. Any hints about what is wrong at my settings?

[rfrancisco]

Great work. One other thing, you could remove the extra border between the datagrid and the header to give it a 1px border instead of 2.

Ricardo

[quimbo]

Silk Icons

http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/

http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/previews/index_abc.png

[vesuvius]

Use the KrytonDataGridViewTextBoxColumn as yoou are using the standard control. MTe only problem with setting the row height to 18 is if you use the datagridviewcomboboxcolumn

Also set the hideouterborders to true for the datagridview

[vesuvius]

Silk Icons

http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/

http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/previews/index_abc.png

Only problem with the silk icons is that there are no 24*24 size icons (for the navigator), or 32*32 for the ribbon

Also it will be 2009 in 14 hours time from now, do you really still want to be using 3 year old icons?

[Chris Porter]

Only problem with the silk icons is that there are no 24*24 size icons (for the navigator), or 32*32 for the ribbon

Also it will be 2009 in 14 hours time from now, do you really still want to be using 3 year old icons?

Oh how I wish silk provided 24 and 32 pixel versions of their icons.

[Consulteware]

Icons...

One of most biggest programmer problems, I found afordable solution if you want just go to http://www.iconshock.com anf buy more than 700000 icons for us$499 for 6 months of subscription.

It has lots of categories, colletions, vector icons, and several other solutions, just check that.

Regards

[rfrancisco]

Iconshock icons are great, only problem are the 16x16 versions, they look like blurs. They resize the icons to 16px so the quality is not very good.

[vesuvius]

Its not just that they don't look good at 16*16, I just don't think they suit the Office themes. I hate to keep plugging my application http://www.componentfactory.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2383,these icons are better than the Vista/Windows 7 ones forn business apps